Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

03/04/2021 03:00 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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                   HB  62-MARRIAGE WITNESSES                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:40:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS announced that the final order of business                                                                 
would be HOUSE BILL NO. 62, "An Act relating to solemnization of                                                                
marriage."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:40:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN, prime sponsor, introduced HB 62 by                                                                       
paraphrasing the sponsor statement [included in the committee                                                                   
packet], which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     At  present,  during  the  solemnization  of  marriage,                                                                    
     couples must assent to the  marriage in the presence of                                                                    
     each other,  the person  solemnizing the  marriage, and                                                                    
     at  least  two  additional  witnesses.  Afterward,  all                                                                    
     parties  must  sign  the marriage  certificates.  House                                                                    
     Bill  62  would  eliminate   the  requirements  of  any                                                                    
     additional witnesses at  the marriage solemnization and                                                                    
     the   signatures  of   these   witnesses  on   marriage                                                                    
     certificates  in an  effort  to  help support  Alaska's                                                                    
     destination  wedding  industry   while  preserving  the                                                                    
     integrity of marriage solemnizations.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska is  one of  20 states  that require  two wedding                                                                    
     witnessesthe    upper   limit    of   wedding   witness                                                                    
     requirements  nationwide.  Twenty-four states  and  the                                                                    
     District of  Columbia do not require  wedding witnesses                                                                    
     at all.  Wedding witnesses played a  more critical role                                                                    
     in  past   centuries  when  record  keeping   was  less                                                                    
     automated. Witnesses  could be contacted to  verify the                                                                    
     wedding had taken place in  the event that records were                                                                    
     damaged  or  missing. Today,  however,  the  role of  a                                                                    
     wedding  witness is  ceremonial. In  Alaska, while  the                                                                    
     person  solemnizing  the  marriage  must  meet  certain                                                                    
     criteria,  no form  of witness  verification (proof  of                                                                    
     identification,    language   comprehension,    address                                                                    
     validation,  etc.)  is  required.  HB  62  would  allow                                                                    
     Alaska to compete with states  like Hawaii and Florida,                                                                    
     which require no wedding witnesses  and lead the nation                                                                    
     in destination weddings.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Destination weddings are a  growing business in Alaska,                                                                    
     especially   as  couples   opt   for  small,   intimate                                                                    
     ceremonies  rather   than  large  ones  due   to  risks                                                                    
     associated with  COVID-19. But  the requirement  of two                                                                    
     wedding  witnesses  makes   Alaska  a  less  attractive                                                                    
     location for many  who travel from farther  away or who                                                                    
     do not want the financial burden of a larger wedding.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Couples  who  come  to  the  state  without  their  own                                                                    
     witnesses are tasked with  finding strangers to witness                                                                    
     their wedding. The burden  of supplying these witnesses                                                                    
     often  falls  to those  who  work  in Alaska's  wedding                                                                    
     industry  who ask  friends and  family  to witness  the                                                                    
     weddings  of  their   out-of-town  clients.  Especially                                                                    
     during the  COVID-19 pandemic, it  is hard  for out-of-                                                                    
     state couples to find two  witnesses and couples may be                                                                    
     reluctant   to   have   strangers  as   their   wedding                                                                    
     witnesses. The additional  witness requirement can also                                                                    
     place an increased financial burden  on the couple. For                                                                    
     example,  for  a remote  location  wedding,  such as  a                                                                    
     glacier,  the couple  must pay  extra seating  costs to                                                                    
     transport the witnesses.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     At present, destination weddings  bring in an estimated                                                                    
     $1 million in revenue to  Alaska in the form of roughly                                                                    
     500 destination  weddings a  year. This  revenue figure                                                                    
     doesn't consider  the fact  that more  than 90%  of the                                                                    
     out-of-state couples who come  to Alaska to get married                                                                    
     stay for  days and  weeks to  explore our  great state.                                                                    
     The resulting  benefit to Alaska's tourism  industry is                                                                    
     substantial.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:44:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SOPHIE  JONAS, Staff,  Representative Matt  Claman, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, on  behalf of Representative Claman,  prime sponsor,                                                               
presented  a  sectional  analysis  of  HB  62  [included  in  the                                                               
committee packet],  which read  as follows  [original punctuation                                                               
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1                                                                                                                
     AS 25.05.301. Form of solemnization.                                                                                       
     Eliminates requirement of two witnesses at a marriage                                                                      
     solemnization ceremony.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
     Section 2                                                                                                                
     AS 25.05.321. Certificates.                                                                                                
        Eliminates requirement of the signatures of two                                                                         
     witnesses on marriage certificates.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
     Section 3                                                                                                                
     AS 25.05.361. Unlawful solemnization of marriage.                                                                          
        Deletes language to conform with changes made in                                                                        
     section 1 of the bill.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
     Section 4                                                                                                                
     AS 25.05.041. Matters insufficient to render marriage                                                                      
     voidable.                                                                                                                  
     Repeals subsections (a)(3) and (a)(5) to conform with                                                                      
     changes made in section 1 of the bill.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:45:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. JONAS  introduced a  testimonial video,  which was  viewed by                                                               
the committee from 3:45 p.m. to 3:49 p.m.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:49:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS recalled hearing  this legislation two years                                                               
ago.  He  offered his belief that "it was  great legislation, and                                                               
nothing has changed."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:49:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN  asked whether  weddings are  taking place                                                               
via Zoom.   After  receiving confirmation, he  asked if  the bill                                                               
would affect Zoom weddings.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  stated that  the  bill  would not  affect                                                               
weddings   attended   via  Zoom.      Further,   he  shared   his                                                               
understanding  that   the  witness   requirement  could   not  be                                                               
satisfied by a  Zoom witness and would still require  a person to                                                               
be  physically  present.    He questioned  why  Alaska  is  still                                                               
following a  law from  1700s era England,  during which  time the                                                               
church was keeping  records instead of the state.   He reiterated                                                               
that people  are attending weddings  via Zoom, but this  bill has                                                               
no impact on that.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:51:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS opened invited testimony.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:51:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CIAN   MULHERN,  Reverend,   Celtic   Ministries,  informed   the                                                               
committee  that he  is  an  ordained minister  with  21 years  of                                                               
experience performing  weddings in other states,  including those                                                               
with no  witness requirement.  He  said this is a  big problem in                                                               
Alaska, noting that  over 90 percent of his  clientele are coming                                                               
from  other parts  of  the world  and don't  know  anyone in  the                                                               
state.   He explained  that couples become  uneasy when  they are                                                               
required to  have a stranger  attend their wedding as  a witness,                                                               
especially  during  the  exchange   of  vows.    Furthermore,  he                                                               
reported  that  witnesses  are  not  being  used  to  verify  the                                                               
couples' identity  - as  the Bureau  of Vital  Statistics [Health                                                               
analytics  &  Vital Records  Section,  DHSS]  is responsible  for                                                               
checking IDs - nor to verify  that the wedding took place and was                                                               
performed  in the  proper manner.   He  opined that  the bill  is                                                               
smart for the wedding industry in  Alaska.  He offered to address                                                               
the previous inquiry regarding Zoom weddings.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  welcomed his perspective on  the subject of                                                               
Zoom weddings.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:53:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MULHERN  said prior  to  COVID-19,  no states  allowed  Zoom                                                               
weddings;  however, two  states,  including  New York,  currently                                                               
allow people to  marry via Zoom due to COVID-19.   He opined that                                                               
the  practice would  not  last  a long,  adding  that  it is  not                                                               
significant   to  the   witness   requirement.     Returning   to                                                               
Representative Kaufman's  question, he  said, "no, you  could not                                                               
perform a  wedding on Zoom  because the  witnesses do have  to be                                                               
present at the time of the wedding."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:54:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS announced HB 62 was held over.                                                                             

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 18 Letter of Support from ASA.pdf HSTA 3/4/2021 3:00:00 PM
HB 18